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Fri 27 Dec 1996 21:15
did not get much exercise today,  but I have think I have got the desire to think out of my system. I will go on reading certain things, and trying to figure certain things out, but not really sure of my self.

My thoughts are disorganized, and do not usually cohere well. I wish I knew what I were doing and that all my thoughts related to my goal.

I think I have important things to do, but I don't know what they are in detail. Well, Back to work,
love,
Colin
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Thu 26 Dec 1996 19:03
[UTOP.DOC]

                       Utopia

Hey Rebecca, I like to write to you-- That, and that I've been thinking about a lot of stuff make these especially long, and perhaps tedious, but I hope not too tedious. Also, I have the time to do this.

My routine these past two days has been to get up and write you, then go out exploring the stream I have been exploring, then to come back and work on stuff. I've decided not to read any more until I finish getting the stuff published I want to get published, one reason is that I can submit my Aesthetic Experience paper to an undergrad philosophy journal by the 15th.

It's good you got a 4.0 in the Islam class-I am relieved I did not too adversely affect your performance.

Yesterday I had a lot of fun. I found some kids' stories I read when I was little ("I can read" books). I was thinking I'd bring back a few and we could read them, only the best. There's a good kids' library at the U and maybe we can research kids' lit a little at a time.

I finally left the house and was gone a long time. It is so incredibly nice to have found this stream that I can walk/run/explore along, so for the most part I don't see cars. It is a sort of long thin "green" space winding throughout suburbia. It connects a few parks and goes by a few swim clubs, a lot of huge rich people's houses, and the campus of a rich kids' private K-12 school with a huge and beautiful campus. It is very muddy though. I saw a red fox with a white ended tail, and a family of white tailed deer, one with antlers. The deer are nice because they keep the thorny brambles down and make paths along the stream. I also like that there are occasionally people around, and the backs of a lot of big houses to look at, and it's nice to be along a stream. It was 60 degrees F almost all day yesterday, very warm, and humid too, so that water would condense on the needles of pine trees, and sprinkle down.

I found this one swim club, closed for the winter, with a road about a mile long through an un-built-up valley finally ending at a main road. There were tons of crows. It was cool to find a place with such a long driveway. The only people on the road were a girl with two dogs and a runner.

At the club I found the covered outdoor area of my dreams. It has comfortable wooden benches along the edges and some picnic tables in the middle as well as some strong wooden tables which could be moved near the benches on the edges. The roof is sloped and overhangs the edge of the shelter so that rain is less likely to get on the people sitting around the edge. It was so nice, and in such a beautiful/peaceful (relatively undisturbed by internal combustion engines) I rested there for a while.

I was thinking about telling stories, and education (I had just explored that school), and then I saw that deer family.


Anyways, I had my goal of encouraging sustainable living, and I was thinking about what is sustainable, and the idea that some people reproduce and some don't. But sustainable living involves at least a minimum of reproduction. Oh I know what it was.

I saw this monster house, huge! With a back lawn the size of football field (what a waste), and there was a kid and a grandpa or someone out there. And I was thinking, what would anyone do with such a huge house? Is there any reason for something like that? And then I thought it funny how a lot of rich people tend to not have many kids, while poor people have a lot sometimes, yet the rich people have these huge houses. And I imagined a rich person having a big family living there with mom's and dad's parents, a few other relatives, a bunch of kids. I also imagined one of those stories where a rich person  takes their big house and starts an orphanage, and I was wondering if that might be fun.

I thought it might be fun, but it didn't really solve the problem, I suppose. There would still be more orphans.

I guess I started thinking about if I could "raise" kids, and I started imagining it. Oh, and I wanted to ask you did your grandparents have to pay for the kids they adopt? Anyways, I couldn't imagine it. But, I was thinking, what if I had some help, not just one person but more.

Then I got annoyed (again) at this two adults/ one house, one family image that we get somehow. Earlier I had been talking about how I don't think I would want to live in a house with just one other person. I think you have a good situation for yourself, in fact, close to the best (maybe, what do you think?) where you're living now. Maybe the two adult/house thing comes from looking at birds, or kings and queens, but most people are neither of those. We live best where we have a fairly small, close community that we like to be in.


So, I began to realize that there might be a sustainable ideal way to live & include raising kids. Helen and Scott Nearing co-authored a book, "Living the Good Life," which focused on sustainablity. Yet it involved living in the country with lots of space for every family. I think this it is a problem to encourage the idea that each family needs its own large amount of space. This ecourages continuing development of rural places and the spread of the sub-division disease. It also was a very sort of isolated way of life, although they had a lot of visitors, but I don't think that isolation appeals to most people. Secondly, they did not raise kids on their place, which doesn't mean that they could not have done that and lived the way they did, but things would have been different if they had. Moreover, a society is not sustainable if it does not maintain some level of reproduction.



Earlier, when considering what to do with myself, I considered people like Tesla, who live for their work and Ideas, and pass on their ideas. These people may be more prolific than the most ardent mormon or catholic. What would it be to consider all the people in the world your children, and to devote one's self to in some small way raising them? Where you pass on your ideas rather than your genes. I think it's Dawkins who calls these things "memes." For some reason this didn't seem too appealing to me, but neither did the alternative. I still want to do that, but that is not all I want to do. However, the idea (from the Happiness book) is that "you can have anything you want, but not everything you want." I don't think that means limit yourself to a single goal, but realize what can happen if you don't.


So, I was thinking, how would it go if I and another had a kid, a baby. I thought I would at least be around half the time, until the baby did not have to be around mom all  the time, and we could each take care of the baby half-time. I thought it would suck being alone with one (or more) very little kid with no one to help me out. How could we work it so there would always be two adults around when kids were around? Get the grandparents? no.

So I imagined four people who loved eachother somehow working this thing out where there could always be two adults around when small kids were around, and two adults doing what was needed to support the group. Certainly the two taking care of the kids could also get some work done during that time. My goal was to find a way where both partners of a couple could be involved in nuturing kids yet not drop out of their more cerebral (or whatever) career.

I am reminded of my Aunt's friend on Bainbridge Island who was working in Physical therapy before her kid, and now she stays home (and has two dogs) she does very much like being with her kid, in fact, it is almost spiritual, and a very incredible time. She did lament, though, about not reading so much of her journals, and loosing touch with what she had been doing.



Maybe this four-person idea could work, if the four people were almost all married to eachother. This may sound like an impossibility, but so does two people being married. Marriage only seems reasonable because that is what people do. Since I have been on this vacation, three people have asked if I have a "girl-friend," the doctor, understandably, but she said, You must not be so happy here because she's not here. Well... Then my great aunt Bonita (who lives and plays bridge in Salt-lake city) who asked me how I was doing. I said, "Alright-" and she said, "So do you have a honey back in Seattle?"

"Well. . . yes."

"I thought you might, because you said alright [not wonderful]," she says.

Thirdly, was yesterday, I was running down this street and stopped to talk to a neighbor, a very cool looking woman, she's married, has no kids, and has the beginnings of that healthy gauntness about her. She may be older than 50 but she looks younger and cooler than that. I found out she's a Therapist, you know, like a psych, No wonder!. She says, "So have you found someone special?"

"Yes.... Why do so many people ask me that? Three people have asked me since I've been here."

I think she (judy) opened up more then, and said, well, that's what you're supposed to be doing now. I (colin) rememberd the psychologist Erickson's stages of development. Around 20 years of age the stage is Intimacy vs. Isolation (annoyingly true for me). If you get through it, you find some sort of intimacy, if not, well, maybe someday you will. Judy said, "I'm just kidding about that being what you're supposed to do," "When I was younger most people got married when they were about 18. I waited until I was 22 and people thought that was late. Now people get married much later."

My parents' friend David (head of the undergrad business school at berkely, a psychologist who went back to school to get his MBA) explained it to me like this, (note that he did _not_ ask me about a girlfriend) "It's an optimization problem. As you get older than 20 your skin starts to clear up, but as you get closer to 30 your hair starts to fall out." "At about age twenty-five, these two factors cross at their lowest value, and you're at your optimum attractiveness." {note that all these quotes are my approximations of my memory of what was said} and he crosses his forearms, making one of of those economy optimization graphs. "So this is something to think about while you're in grad school (where he met his wife), then it's time to think about who your lab partners are. :)" Then my dad said, well he has good hair genes, so he can probably wait longer.

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So I'm working on this idea of an attainable optimum way of living. My goal is to write or co-author a new "living the good life" that includes kids, and a less rural way of living. I will present an ideal of a sustainable way of living an optimal life and detail the transition that society can make to approach this ideal. Scott Nearing was lamenting that people study all sorts of engineering but not social engineering. Maybe I can be a social engineer. "I'm studying engineering." "Oh?, what kind?"

I've thought more about it, but I'm wondering your opinions on both the two person/four person images, as well as the idea that four people would choose to stay together, in one place until they die, and be able to maintian self-actualizing careers even while taking care of kids half time. Another solution (which I'm guessing you might prefer) is to be where there is extended family who can help take care of the kids, the idea being that the old folks aren't career-making. That bothers me because I think I would rather be more involved in taking care of my own kids instead of waiting until I was 60 to take care of grand-kids, and moreover, I would not want to be any less involved in my work at 60. Moreover, I think it would be cool to grow old close with three other people instead of one, and it would be less of a problem if one of the group died, because there would still be a group.


Sorry this is so long. It's been fun for me, but what do you think about all this? Each day I think I've got it out of my system (and I think this will be the last long one).


I get to go running/exploring now, and then work on that Maslow excerpt.

I hope you are having a good Monday,

love,
Colin


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