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Wed 13 Mar 2002 21:20
Ritzer Ch 10: Micro-Macro Integration p 378 discussing work of Norbert Elias:

He is interested in tracing such things as changes in what embarasses us, our increasing sensitivity, how we've grown increasingly observant of others, and our sharpened understanding of others.

For example, a thirteenth-century poem warned, "A number of people gnaw on a bone and then put it back in the dish--this is a serious offense" (Elias, 1939/1994:68). Another thirteenth-century volume warns, "It is not decent to poke your fingers into your ears or eyes, as some people do, or to pick your nose while eating" (Elias, 1939/1994:71).

Thus, a late 16th century document says, "Nothing is more improper than to lick your fingers, to touch the meats and put them into your mouth with your hand, to stir sauce with your fingers, or to dip bread into it with your fork and then suck it" (Elias, 1939/1994:79).

p 379
And, as was already pointed out, these changes are not brought about consciously, but rather emerge unconsciously.

Another central point is that these changes generally emanate from a single source (especially, as we will see, the court in French society) and then disperse throughout society. Here is the way Elias summarizes these points:

Certain forms of behavior are placed under prohibition, not because they are unhealthy [a rational reason] but because they lead to an offensive sight and disagreeable associations{???}; shame at offering such a spectacle, originally absent, and fear of arousing such associations are gradually spread from the standard setting circles to larger circles by numerous authorities and institutions. However, once such feelings are aroused and firmly established in society by means of certain rituals ... they are constantly reproduced so long as the structure of human relations is not fundamentally altered. (Elias, 1939/1994:104)


{if disagreeable, why not already self-censured?}

A 14th century schoolbook:
To contract an illness: Listen to the old maxim about the sound of wind. If it can be purged without a noise that is best. But it is better that it be emitted with a noise than it be held back...
...The sound of farting, especially of those who stand on elevated ground, is horrible. One should make sacrifices with the buttocks pressed firmly together...
...let a cough hide the explosive sound...Follow the law of Chiliades: Replace farts with coughs. (Elias, 1939/1994:106)
{How about what A.S. Neill says re: summerhill children not being embarassed by body-function jokes?}

But all this reflects the process of civilization and the movement of the "frontier of embarassment" (Elias, 1939,1994:107). Things that could be discussed openly have over time progressively moved beyond that frontier.

Many people were living in closer proximity and in more permanent interdependence. Therefore, there was a greater need to regulate people's impulses and to get them to practice greater restraint {bogus}. The control over impulses that began in the higher echelons of the court were eventually transmitted to those of lower social status.

Society is gradually beginning to suppress the positive pleasure component in certain functions more and more strongly by the arousal of anxiety; or, more exactly, it is rendering this pleasure 'private' and 'secret' (i.e. suppressing it within the individual), while fostering the negatively charged affects--displeasure, revultion, distaste--as the only feelings customary in society. (Elias, 1939,1994:117)


{how do children learn to be embarassed? Others ridiculing them? Why do they respond with embarassment, not pride to ridicule?}

More and more walls are being erected between people so that things that could formerly be done in the presence of others are now hidden from view.

Elias describes the same general trend in sexual relations. In the Middle Ages it was common for many people, including men and women, to spend the night together in the same room. And, it was not uncommon for them to sleep naked {was it warm enough?}.

Elias describes the following wedding customs beginning in the Middle Ages:

The procession into the bridal chamber was led by the best man. The bride was undressed by the bridesmaids; The bridal bed had to be mounted in the presence of witnesses if the marriage was to be valid. (Elias, 1939,1994:145-146)


p381
However, there is still a discernible trend in sexuality and elsewhere that can be described as the civilizing process:
The process of civilization of the sex drive, seen on a large scale, runs parallel to those of other drives, no matter what sociogenetic differences of detail may always be present... control grows ever stricter. The instinct is slowly but progressively suppressed from the public life of society.... And this restraint, like all others, is enforced less and less by direct physical force. It is cultivated in the individual from an early age as habitual self-restraint by the structure of social life, by the pressure of social institutions in general, and by certain executive organs of society (above all, the family) in particular. Thereby the social commands and prohibitions become increasingly part of the self. (Elias, 1939,1994:154)

Hmm. We have black/latino/white youths & adults on the subway and in the streets of NYC who counter this. Though there is awareness now of sexual harrasment, although this corresponds with great acceptance of nudity etc/ sexual discussion/ especially in europe... is civilizing a valid concept? Britney Spears' e.g. I'm a fool for you?

People more isolated because they are more free to enjoy these pleasures alone?

p382
, how the regulations of the whole instinctual and affective life by steady self-control becomes more and more stable, more even and more all-embracing. (Elias, 1939/1982:230)
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